|mark211||Best satires on Sci-Fi and Fantasy genres?||2016-02-28 07:01:58|
|mark211||In last week's discussion on 'favourite superheroes', two QM contributors – John David Rose (JDR) and Ironspider – both mentioned films and/or graphic novels which included what JDR called a "deconstruction of the genre". The examples they gave were the recent movie release 'Dead Pool' ("Self-referential with lots of tongue in cheek jabs at the rest of the genre" – JDR), Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons' 'Watchmen' and Pat Mills and Kevin O'Neill's 'Marshal Law' ("Just love the irony" – Ironspider). ||2016-02-28 07:02:07|
|mark211||So this got me to thinking – what are the best / funniest / most accurate satirical takes on the Science Fiction of Fantasy genres, whether in print, theatre, film or, indeed, graphic novel? In terms of movies, 'Galaxy Quest' (1999) would be a pretty good example – at least as I remember it anyway. Terry Pratchett's 'Discworld' series could be suggested as another although there, of course, as in the best tradition of satire, the world of the reader is at least as much if not more the target of gentle mockery as the genre in which the books are set. So people – what do we think? What are the best satires on Sci-Fi and Fantasy genres?||2016-02-28 07:02:15|
|John David Rose||I think The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams holds its place as the quintessential science fiction comedy that spoofs a lot of science fiction tropes.
Garth Marenghi's Darkplace is a comedy series that was done for Channel 4 in Britain by Richard Ayoade and Matthew Holness. It's gotten some limited play in the U.S. and I think it's a great parody of a 1980s horror/weird tales television show with many levels of humor.
And since I brought horror into it, and British television, I might as well mention Dr. Terrible's House of Horrible by Graham Duff and Steve Koogan. Very funny parodies of Hammer, Amicus, and Tigon horror films of the 60s and 70s.||2016-02-28 12:02:49|
|John David Rose||Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog by Joss Whedon and company.||2016-02-28 12:05:23|
|micheledutcher||Hitchhiker's guide - which is very appropriate now that we have an election going on here in The States. Beeblebox: If there is anything bigger than my ego, I want it caught and shot right now. Yeah, I went there.
|r.tornello||HHGttG a good satire but the film version (s), like some of SNL skits, ran too long.
Do you want intended or unintended (as in, it's so bad it's good)satire?
|mark211||I was thinking along the lines of intentional satire. And, yes, 'Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy' does pretty much set the gold standard in many ways. The BBC radio version (which I think was the original in fact)and the BBC TV version from the 80s were both very good. The more recent movie version ... not so much, though I did think Martin Freeman was good (as I think he was also good in The Hobbit movies as well as, of course, the original Gervais-Marchant version of 'The Office'). ||2016-03-01 08:51:34|
|John David Rose||Has anyone read _Bored of the Rings_ by the Harvard Lampoon? I've seen it mentioned in lists of fantasy parodies. I'm not sure whether it qualifies as satire or not, but it looks interesting.||2016-03-01 21:02:41|
|mark211||Re: "Bored of the Rings" I can't say I've ever come across that one but I'd be interested to read that. I think I've said this in this forum before now but as much as I loved 'The Hobbit' both as a child and as an adult I found 'The Lord of the Rings' turgid and barely readable. It's the SFF equivalent of James Joyce's 'Ulysses' for me ('Dubliners' is great, 'Ulysses' just does my head in).||2016-03-03 08:16:22|
|r.tornello||What about APE AND ESSENCE by Huxley?||2016-03-04 05:15:06|
|mark211||"Ape and Essence" I am ashamed to say I'd never even heard of (for anyone else in the same boat, Wikipedia describes it as "largely a satire of the rise of large-scale warfare and warmongering in the 20th century, and presents a pessimistic view of the politics of mutually assured destruction. The book makes extensive use of surreal imagery, depicting humans as apes who, as a whole, will inevitably kill themselves.") That sounds absolutely great - not to mention of course that 'Brave New world' was also an excellent Sci-Fi satire ... Thanks for the tip, Richard! ||2016-03-04 06:19:43|
|Wesson||Wow, considering how many sci-fi writers seem to dislike the human race, I'm surprised none of them choose to follow their own advice and jump off a building. Now there's a satire. ||2016-03-06 08:17:41|