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mark211Do you Manga?2017-07-02 00:45:21
mark211A very big thank you, as always, to everyone who contributes to these discussions. Over the last two weeks (sorry about that!) the question "Do you keep a writer's notebook?" received from fascinating answers from QM contributors and readers Ironspider, GordonRowlinson, Rick Tornello, Tetchedistress, Michele Dutcher, Dave, Michael B, Modelling_Mushi, and Sixbears. I was particularly interested to hear how many of us - I include myself here - still use paper and pen and in particular (thinking about the notebooks of the illustration students which inspired the question) how many of us also keep sketches, maps, and other inserts. I was particularly struck by Ironspider's process described here: "I only write on the facing page, keeping the opposite page free for extra, inserted text, vague notes or links to important plot points." So thanks to everyone for those comments. 2017-07-02 00:51:00
mark211This week, I thought I would change pace completely and raise the issue of Manga - the general name given for the incredibly wide and diverse range of popular Japanese comic books. The question is not so much about the comics themselves - although if anyone does have a favourite please do feel free to mention which one(s) and why - but more on the influence of Manga on Speculative, Science and Fantasy fiction. Just as Anne Rice's 1994 'Interview with a Vampire' seems to have re-awoken the public's fascination with all things Vampiric, it seems that Manga, or at least a particular genre of Manga, - from Katsuhiro Otomo's 'Akira' and Masamune Shirow's 'Ghost in the Shell' series of the 1980s up to Koushun Takami and Masayuki Taguchi's 'Battle Royale' and Hiroya Oku's 'Gantz' series in the 2000s - has held a powerful grip on the imaginations of artists, film makers, and - of course - writers of SFF. 2017-07-02 01:01:08
mark211So questions: Do you Manga? What do you think it is about this Japanese form of story-telling that seems to resonate with so many readers around the world? Do the particular kind of surreal, often spectacularly cruel and violent, cyberpunkish stories speak to you? Inspire you? Do please let us know your thoughts below.2017-07-02 01:03:18
rtCyber punkish? However i was introduce to Mange through my daughter 30 years ago. I found some of it interesting, and disorienting in the manner of presentation. I'm not sure what to think. The art form is ancient if you research it, the subjects similar. The 19th century work is brutal and sadistic reflecting my western interpretation regarding that side of Japanese society and especially towards women.

My wife's late uncle (Yaso Yamayoshi) was one of the owners of Studio Cockpit and they continue to work with TOEI(sp?) and other big Japanese animation houses. Look at the credits on many of the animation pictures in the US. He personally did not like the violent aspect of manga and chose to work with children's themes.

I'm not sure that answers your question, though I prefer the less violent versions and don't gravitate at all to the X rated. I hope this helps.

2017-07-02 06:17:17
WessonI have a great deal of respect for anime and manga, its impact on me was the whole reason I started writing in the first place. I've always considered manga to be more creative and more politically incorrect than western SFF. It's usually not as preachy, either. Manga can broken into two genres: shonen for boys and shojo for girls. Shonen is more action-oriented and shojo is more romance-oriented but both tell great stories and have useful lessons for boys and girls. It would be nice if our society had a similar system but unfortunately too many people incorrectly believe that gender doesn't exist (my opinion, bite me). Speaking of gender, some of the strongest female characters I've ever seen have been in the anime and manga. This is because they can be strong without acting like a man - they overcome adversity while remaining 'female'. 2017-07-02 08:25:44
WessonI think manga resonates with readers because its so rebellious. If you think about it, even the violent and sexual stuff isn't all that different from the rock n' roll of the seventies or eighties. At the risk of making everyone uncomfortable, I'm familiar with some of the x-rated stuff out there and even *those* have great stories in my opinion.2017-07-02 08:26:45
r.tornello@wesson; Re gender roles I AGREE. Give a boy a Barbie and he'll turn her into a machine gun, (seen it). Or coach girls. That's an eye opener. I recommend it for any man with daughters. It's one of the best insights into your wife, girl friend or what ever. TRUST ME!!!!! I'm not uncomfortable with X rated as long as it isn't gratuitous. When I mentioned 19th century I was speaking specifically about Seiu Ito's (the Art of Bondage series) and some of Yoshitoshi's work. And yes 70' and 80' R&R has its share too. Again not my favorite. I like the more political and social commentary type lyrics, which one can consider all these as some form for a cultural time slice reflection. 2017-07-02 09:51:20
IronspiderDo I manga? Not as much as previously. Akira, Appleseed, Ghost in the Shell (anything by Shirow really), Ranma 1/2 and numerous others. These days everything is either Harry Potter lite or some nonsense about kids trapped in online games. I haven't come across any decent science-fiction manga for quite some time and so that, like most of my comic book reading, has been consigned to a shelf on a bookcase. I revisit the various tomes I own on a regular basis - the recent Scarlett Johansson live-action GitS had me reaching for the paperback version. If anyone can suggest any really ggod sci-based manga I may go out an browse!2017-07-02 12:55:04
r.tornelloDo I manga with some cats when I tanga?

Does it matta that we're two different species when we tanga to the manga?

PITA people their hands they wringa when observing this bailando and say no me digas.

We cannot allow this man and cat to manga the tanga like that.

2017-07-03 15:57:46
Wesson@IronSpider - I tend to prefer the wild, silly manga out there but I always recommend 'Higurashi'. It's kind of a fantasy-horror-mystery story that feels like the X Files at times. There is also a stellar sci-fi show out there called 'Stein's;Gate' but I don't know if it's a manga. 2017-07-04 07:19:52





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