|mark211||What would (or indeed, what does) African Science Fiction or Fantasy look like?||2017-07-30 00:35:06|
|mark211||As always, a big thank you to everyone who contributed to last week's discussions on the question of dragons in fiction - Rick Tornello, Ironspider, Wesson and dandrew72 all made interesting comments. But there was one comment - from Rick - which caught my eye in particular: "You all seem to see dragon = Monster is a WESTERN response to The Dragon. It's so totally opposite the Eastern tradition." And that got me thinking about the topic for this week ...||2017-07-30 00:37:39|
|mark211||People can disagree with this assessment of course, but while the roots of Fantasy are pretty universal (in the sense of myths, legends and folk tales and in publishing such as Chinese author Cao Xueqin's epic 'Dream of the Red Chamber'), I would say the roots of Science Fiction are pretty firmly grounded in the West. Japan, and later South Korea, have also produced a rich tradition of dazzling and innovative Sci-Fi, but I would argue that this followed World War II and especially the devastation wrought on the imagination as well as on the cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki by the Atomic bomb. More recently China has begun to develop a taste for SF - no doubt as part of a response to the astonishing speed of change and development that country has had over the last 3 decades or so (I can highly recommend the short story'Folding Beijing' by Hao Jingfang translated by Ken Liu which I came across in 'The Year's Best Science Fiction & Fantasy 2016').||2017-07-30 00:47:21|
|mark211||But what about Africa? As far as I know, there has been a fairly strong tradition of Magical Realism (e.g. Ben Okri), but I have not heard much about either SF or Fantasy fiction coming out of that part of the world. That kind of writing does exist - a quick Google search throws up 'Lagos 2060' - a collection of eight short SF stories edited by Ayodele Arigbabu - although I confess I haven't read it, having literally only just now discovered it.||2017-07-30 00:52:52|
|mark211||So questions this week - Would you consider using Africa as a setting for SFF? Would you feel confident in writing in such a setting or would you avoid doing so? What might prompt you to use an African setting? What would (or indeed, what does) African Science Fiction or Fantasy look like? Alternatively, have you read any African SFF and what did you think? Be sure to share your ideas below.||2017-07-30 00:55:00|
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|micheledutcher||This is an interesting subject because a cyber-friend of mine is thinking about doing an anthology about Jungle Fantasy stories. He is thinking mostly of South American stories, but Africa could certainly be a part of that as well.
You would need to research about their gods/demons - to get a sense of what their ancient beliefs are.
I think most of us would be afraid to barge into other people's ancient religions and cherry-pick what characters/scenes/scenarios we want to use.
|mark211||"I think most of us would be afraid to barge into other people's ancient religions and cherry-pick what characters/scenes/scenarios we want to use." Yes, it's interesting that, isn't it? Especially in the context of fantasy (or even SF for that matter) where it's common to see real world influences - from Norse and Anglo-Saxon stories for instance - but where no one much seems to mind if the author has played fast and loose with them. I guess it's because with Africa in particular there were so many real world misrepresentations by colonial powers (mostly British and French). It would be a shame not to use an African setting just over fears like that though. Either way, your jungle anthology sounds very interesting.||2017-07-31 12:30:14|
|dandrew72||Having visted Africa several times I can attest that it could serve fiction and fantasy well. There is the possibility of delving into the history - the Obas of Benin could prove a unique complement to a story. The continent is incredibly diverse - snow-capped peaks in one part, vast expanses of desert (with who knows what hidden under the sands), the grasslands and the jungles and all sorts of things in between. Would I write an Africa-based story? Probably. I see no reason why not. ||2017-07-31 15:46:07|
|Ironspider||I'm not aware of reading any fiction written by African authors, but then I'm not interested in the ethnicity of the writer, but the worked produced. I'd be happy to use an African setting, though I'd want enough background information to inform what I've written with pertinent detail. As to whether I can develop a plot that uses any specifically African mythos, that's a separate question!||2017-08-01 04:55:45|
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|mark211||Where the yellow rubbery fuck are "Kayleec Labgw" and "rahu" coming in from? Can we erase these motherfuckers or what?||2017-08-02 13:45:59|
|mark211||@Ironspider: "I'm not interested in the ethnicity of the writer, but the worked produced" I'm completely on board with this statement. I certainly did not intend to suggest that only Chinese people can write about China; only Africans about Africa and so on. At the same time, I do think there is value in reading something written by someone from a certain background if for no other reason than they may be drawn to subjects that people of my own ethnicity may not. Bad writing is bad writing, just as good is good. I would never not read a novel about, say, Bangkok in the far future simply because it was not written by a Thai author - having both read and enjoyed Paolo Bacigalupi's 'The Windup Girl' which does precisely that i.e. an American author writing about a futuristic Bangkok - I feel I can say that quite honestly. ||2017-08-02 13:53:32|
|rt||my computer protection indicates that this is not a secure website when I log on. It's been like this fo a few months. I mentioned it earlier.||2017-08-02 16:01:39|
|r.tornello||I assume that these people have been using the unsecured password log on to screw around. ||2017-08-03 05:56:32|
|mark211||Yes, you're right - and apologies for the cursing. ||2017-08-03 11:30:24|
|mark211||It would have been best just to ignore it, but for some reason it really wound me up (as if no one could tell!!)
|r.tornello|| your cursing is not a bother, and it's best not to ignore the "hacking".
APHELION had a huge problem with just the same thing a few years ago.||2017-08-03 13:22:15|