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mark211What do you find most attractive about Science Fiction and Fantasy?2016-03-06 12:51:55
mark211At the end of last week's discussion on satire in SFF, QM contributor Wesson commented: "considering how many sci-fi writers seem to dislike the human race, I'm surprised none of them choose to follow their own advice and jump off a building." (Use your imagination to insert an appropriate LMFAO emoji here). 2016-03-06 12:53:33
mark211That comment got me to thinking about what should be a very obvious question - why, when there are so many genres of fiction, does either this one or these two appeal to you so much? I think this could be really interesting - let us know your thoughts below people!2016-03-06 12:54:59
IronspiderEscapism I would suppose. Perhaps it's the lack of boundaries, the ability to create a universe from scratch and go play.2016-03-07 01:18:22
WessonJust a disclaimer, I am not encouraging anyone to jump off a building, lol. Leave that to the professionals. I said what I said after checking out that Ape and Essence book which I thought was pretty silly but it helps me launch a new argument pertaining to this discussion topic. I think SSF can be broken into two main categories: you have the refined high-brow stuff found in literary magazines and then you have the more geeky stuff like comic books, anime, video games, etc. I personally prefer the geeky stuff because I find it more entertaining but there’s no right or wrong answer. 2016-03-07 22:05:31
WessonI agree with IronSpider, no matter what niche you fall into, escapism is a big part of SFF whether you’re reading it or making it. I want to bring up one thing though pertaining to my comment in the previous discussion: There are some people including myself who don't like SFF that pushes a socio-political agenda too hard or waves a finger at mankind. It tends to ruin the escapism. I know a few people just in my family who say this is one reason they avoid the genre altogether. Opinions are subjective though, the reason one person avoids SFF may be the reason another is drawn to it. Thank goodness there are so many choices out there. 2016-03-07 22:06:38
IronspiderI'd agree with Wesson - I'm no fan of any book or film that shoves an agenda way too hard - I don't mind being educated, but I don't like being preached at. For example the 'Forever War' makes a valid point about the isolation felt by soldiers, especially when caught in a pointless conflict, but I don't feel as if Haldeman was wagging a finger or reaching for a megaphone. And as for the categorisation, well, yes, ignoring the old labels such as 'hard SF' or 'high fantasy, SFF can plot on a bell curve. Depending on mood I can read Clarke one day and Rice Burroughs the next. Maybe you can plot escapism on the same bell curve...2016-03-07 23:19:25

"Greed and hate, church and state, 2 baboon monkeys in one supreme gorilla" silly?

I think it's rather fitting considering the state of the planet domestically here in the USA and all the crazy monkeys killing each, or threatening to over perceived blasphemies agains the gods and political entities.


BTW the origins of the word silly meant blessed in Old English

2016-03-09 10:46:16
CurtisIf you are lucky the author will transport the reader to a time or place than has nothing to do with the reality of todays B.S. that goes on and on.2016-03-10 23:51:22

Fantasy maybe, escapism most definitely, but SF, in many cases, it appears to be a reaction to the current star of affairs, socially , technologically, philosophically and or whatever, but it's a comment on/reaction to, covered by the cloak of SF.


2016-03-11 04:45:05
mark211"If you are lucky the author will transport the reader to a time or place than has nothing to do with the reality of today" Yep. I think one of the best things about science fiction and fantasy as a genre is that its fiction which is a metaphor for the imaginative process itself. 2016-03-11 05:17:26
mark211I think few if any other genres can compete in terms of the ability to vividly imagine whole new realities, explore ideas in wholly new ways and, yes, to entertain. If travel broadens the mind, then reading SFF can broaden the limits beyond the mind even further. Cracking stuff. The only kinds of novel I find enjoyable outside of SFF these days tend to be historical novels e.g. Robert Harris's re-imagining of the life of Cicero or George MacDonald Fraser's 'Flashman' novels or else one's actually written at the time - Joseph Conrad, Emile Zola that kind of thing. Imagining the past can somehow be as liberating as imagining the future or the worlds beyond our own.2016-03-11 05:22:36
micheledutcherAs far as writing sci-fi: I like being able to take emotional things going on in my life to an extreme. If I'm sad, I'll create a whole world that is raining, where all the people are caught in drudgery and one person is trying to escape. I just wrote a piece where the entire world has huge explosions and is being overtaken by violent storms - but there are a handful of people left to try to escape as best they can. As King of the Earth I can step back and say: Hey, at least my life is not as bad as the apocalypse. 2016-03-11 12:17:59
WessonRT: Crazy monkeys wouldn't be able to carry on an intelligent conversation like the one we're having now or write awesome stories. Don't write off mankind just because of the idiots, the alternative to placing faith in individual people is to place it in God or government and neither has a great historical track record. 2016-03-11 20:50:21
RTBut we are crazy and we are a part of the ape family.

Your point exactly is the point of the story written in 1949 or there about. Consider the time period. BTW would you consider the word Faith as unknowing hope?

2016-03-12 06:24:38

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